And it wasn’t just me, I subbed this with some of the best eyes in the hobby and every single member of this sub got screwed over. The lone 10 I got of course was a shiny modern card. I’ve slabbed lots of cards over the years.
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Besides slabbing my 1913 World Series ticket stub as a game 2 instead of what it actually is, a game 3 their grades are a joke. My latest sub just popped and it’s a friggin joke. It was a shit show before Nat took it over and he has somehow made it worse. And the 1952 Mantle that started the whole BODA "investigation" thread? I'd take that card any day and would be more than happy to pay top dollar for it. If you think the next time that Honus Wagner PSA 8 trades hands that it's going to go for anything other than a new record because everyone knows it's trimmed, you're only kidding yourself. The FBI clearly doesn't care and neither does the hobby. I would wager good money that the aftermath of BODA's efforts will actually result in MORE altered cards being graded than before. If anything, they're drawing MORE attention to what can be done to a card and what can't be detected. These guys can sit there and dig up a million of these cards and it wouldn't change a thing. And even if they could, that still wouldn't make it a crime to clean a card just because a group of ultra-purist collectors disapprove of it. Not to mention the hobby can't even agree on what counts as an "alteration" to begin with. Don't get me wrong, they've also found a ton of truly altered cards too, but the vast majority of those almost certainly couldn't be detected without a before (AND AFTER) scan of the same card side by side. It's no wonder the FBI shrugged their shoulders after being presented with the evidence. If you look at cards I've bought, my hidden ID tag is different on all of them.
Meanwhile, there are 20,000+ "a***a" buyers on eBay, not to mention eBay assigns the same account DIFFERENT hidden ID's on every transaction lol. I've lost count of how many cards they post where they say something along the lines of "I couldn't prove any alterations on this one, but posting anyhow for reference" or "I haven't identified the alteration on this, but I suspect there is one because 'a***a' submitted it". It's starting to become like the boy who cried wolf over there. some of their posts are just getting ridiculous now. For every one of these that slips through the cracks, they probably correctly reject 5,000+, but you never see the rejections, you only see the ones that slip through the cracks.Īs far as BODA's "altered" cards goes. So that means that two graders authenticated this 1914 CJ reprint, the T206 EPDG Cy Young Reprint that was discussed here a few months back (dont have pic), and so many altered cards that BODA finds? Its noteworthy that the guy states that every card is reviewed by at least two graders (maybe more if "contentious"). I believe that they think they're grading them twice, but in reality the second "grader" probably just glances at the card and says, "ya, looks good to me".įor the higher end stuff, sure, multiple graders are truly looking at it. They're jsut slamming that stuff through. And it just doesn't make sense operationally or efficiency wise for the bulk $10/ea ultra-modern type submissions. If multiple graders independently graded every card, the variance/inconsistency in grades wouldn't be nearly this wide. The variance we see in results by submission is too wide for that to be the case. I highly doubt that two graders are independently grading every card that comes through their door.
I suspect 2 secs per card is spent on that part of the grading process. There is a verifier but that person simply "looks" at the card once it is in the holder. Maybe on higher grading tiers but my hunch is that even at the $200 level it is one set of eyes per card for a grade to be assigned.
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